Set list for March '11 tour

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I may be wrong... but i don't recall them ever playing the single version of alseep in the back???

errant, see the last post on this thread from 2 years ago. http://elbow.heavenforum.org/t553p15-dream-setlist

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my mate had a few tweets with craig yesterday, asked about them playing something from AITB on this tour & got a polite brush off about them only being able to play so much in the time frame...

so maybe drop some of TSSK tracks from llast tour? Looking forward to live BARB, wonder if 'High Ideals' will be played live? I liked Craig and Guy's radio session of 'River' live.

Lets face it, they are never going to have the perfect set for everyone unless they play each album all the way through plus b-sides, and then someone would still complain that the set was too long!

Let's just enjoy what they do play.

I couldn't care less about what the played because I like pretty 98% of Elbow songs. This is a band that are not sell outs and have adapted to demand extremely well in my opinion. People are moaning about One Day overkill, again I don't care. It's a fantastic song and I have not seen Elbow live yet and I would live to see this live, as I would love to see Fugitive Motel, Ribcage and Forget Myself live. I am sure whatever the set list is everyone will enjoy the gig, even the new fans will appreciate their older stuff. Cannot wait

Boney-Crisp wrote:

I couldn't care less about what the played because I like pretty 98% of Elbow songs. This is a band that are not sell outs and have adapted to demand extremely well in my opinion. People are moaning about One Day overkill, again I don't care. It's a fantastic song and I have not seen Elbow live yet and I would live to see this live, as I would love to see Fugitive Motel, Ribcage and Forget Myself live. I am sure whatever the set list is everyone will enjoy the gig, even the new fans will appreciate their older stuff. Cannot wait

I'm inclined to agree. The only song I'd use to take a 'comfort break' would be Audience With The Pope and even that is perfectly okay in my books (just one of my least liked). Must be nice to have a set of interchangeable songs that leave most of your fanbase content ...

lucky with disease wrote:

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I may be wrong... but i don't recall them ever playing the single version of alseep in the back???

errant, see the last post on this thread from 2 years ago. http://elbow.heavenforum.org/t553p15-dream-setlist

yeh just read that, thanks for the head's up, although am not 100% sure on the facts myself... :-/

hilaryg wrote:

Lets face it, they are never going to have the perfect set for everyone unless they play each album all the way through plus b-sides, and then someone would still complain that the set was too long!

Let's just enjoy what they do play.

Of course its never going to be the perfect set for everyone, but when its put up for fan suggestions on facebook elbow official, and we put our thoughts on this forum...it tells a tale.
Most of us were at the last tour, just would be interesting if the back catalogue varied from TSSK heavy.

Cozzer wrote:

Boney-Crisp wrote:

I couldn't care less about what the played because I like pretty 98% of Elbow songs. This is a band that are not sell outs and have adapted to demand extremely well in my opinion. People are moaning about One Day overkill, again I don't care. It's a fantastic song and I have not seen Elbow live yet and I would live to see this live, as I would love to see Fugitive Motel, Ribcage and Forget Myself live. I am sure whatever the set list is everyone will enjoy the gig, even the new fans will appreciate their older stuff. Cannot wait

I'm inclined to agree. The only song I'd use to take a 'comfort break' would be Audience With The Pope and even that is perfectly okay in my books (just one of my least liked). Must be nice to have a set of interchangeable songs that leave most of your fanbase content ...

No-one is moaning, or saying they are a sell out....those are your words. Some are just giving their opinion, we are all entitled to our opinions and discussion about songs, even if it never gets anywhere. It shows we are still interested, but anyway, they will play what they decide to play, has the label an influence.
You say you havn't seen Elbow live yet, those of us that have, will understandably have a different view to you.

How can they have a comfort break of 'Audience with the Pope'? they only played it live once with the BBC orchestra (If i remember correctly)

The facts are from the bootlegs I have with the song on it, my memory on it's own isn't infallible
I wasn't at the Newcastle gig in 2001 as you were.

lucky with disease wrote:

The facts are from the bootlegs I have with the song on it, my memory on it's own isn't infallible
I wasn't at the Newcastle gig in 2001 as you were.

i'll bow down to your superior knowledge, and your bootlegs... i may have had a shandy or two that night too... i've laboured under the impression i'd never heard it live all these years... lol!

errant wrote:

lucky with disease wrote:

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I may be wrong... but i don't recall them ever playing the single version of alseep in the back???

errant, see the last post on this thread from 2 years ago. http://elbow.heavenforum.org/t553p15-dream-setlist

yeh just read that, thanks for the head's up, although am not 100% sure on the facts myself... :-/

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lucky with disease wrote:
The facts are from the bootlegs I have with the song on it, my memory on it's own isn't infallible
I wasn't at the Newcastle gig in 2001 as you were.


i'll bow down to your superior knowledge, and your bootlegs... i may have had a shandy or two that night too... i've laboured under the impression i'd never heard it live all these years... lol!

I don't want to be superior I'm just a geek! with too many neat little rows!

lucky with disease wrote:

I don't want to be superior I'm just a geek! with too many neat little rows!

haha... you've convinced me with your geekyness that you are quite correct...

lucky with disease wrote:

Cozzer wrote:

Boney-Crisp wrote:

I couldn't care less about what the played because I like pretty 98% of Elbow songs. This is a band that are not sell outs and have adapted to demand extremely well in my opinion. People are moaning about One Day overkill, again I don't care. It's a fantastic song and I have not seen Elbow live yet and I would live to see this live, as I would love to see Fugitive Motel, Ribcage and Forget Myself live. I am sure whatever the set list is everyone will enjoy the gig, even the new fans will appreciate their older stuff. Cannot wait

I'm inclined to agree. The only song I'd use to take a 'comfort break' would be Audience With The Pope and even that is perfectly okay in my books (just one of my least liked). Must be nice to have a set of interchangeable songs that leave most of your fanbase content ...

No-one is moaning, or saying they are a sell out....those are your words. Some are just giving their opinion, we are all entitled to our opinions and discussion about songs, even if it never gets anywhere. It shows we are still interested, but anyway, they will play what they decide to play, has the label an influence.
You say you havn't seen Elbow live yet, those of us that have, will understandably have a different view to you.

How can they have a comfort break of 'Audience with the Pope'? they only played it live once with the BBC orchestra (If i remember correctly)

Woah woah,you've misread what I was saying. I know no one is moaning and I know most share the same opinion as me when I say the majority of Elbow songs are liked. Hence why I said I don't care what they play. My sell out comment was a comparison to the likes of Kings of Leon who have to play the likes of 'Sex on fire, use somebody and on call' as there are the only songs there new fans know. Elbow is different I find, even the new fans will appreciate their older stuff. So my point is, is that Elbow are luck in the fact that they don't have to be so specific with what they choose to please the majority. Personally for me all 5 albums are as good as each other on their own merit, not many bands achieve that

Also i can see your argument about you perhaps being bored of the same song being played at gigs, whilst some older gems are forgotten, all I can say to that though is that if you have a crowd pleaser, why leave it out?

lucky with disease wrote:

Cozzer wrote:

Boney-Crisp wrote:

I couldn't care less about what the played because I like pretty 98% of Elbow songs. This is a band that are not sell outs and have adapted to demand extremely well in my opinion. People are moaning about One Day overkill, again I don't care. It's a fantastic song and I have not seen Elbow live yet and I would live to see this live, as I would love to see Fugitive Motel, Ribcage and Forget Myself live. I am sure whatever the set list is everyone will enjoy the gig, even the new fans will appreciate their older stuff. Cannot wait

I'm inclined to agree. The only song I'd use to take a 'comfort break' would be Audience With The Pope and even that is perfectly okay in my books (just one of my least liked). Must be nice to have a set of interchangeable songs that leave most of your fanbase content ...

No-one is moaning, or saying they are a sell out....those are your words. Some are just giving their opinion, we are all entitled to our opinions and discussion about songs, even if it never gets anywhere. It shows we are still interested, but anyway, they will play what they decide to play, has the label an influence.
You say you havn't seen Elbow live yet, those of us that have, will understandably have a different view to you.

How can they have a comfort break of 'Audience with the Pope'? they only played it live once with the BBC orchestra (If i remember correctly)

Just pointing out that if I were to go for a piss this is the song I'd probably choose do it in. Hypothetically speaking of course .. BTW I have seen Elbow before and I still agree with Boney's sentiments. Maybe we're easy to please (Audience aside .. natch)

Blimey, just been thinking of an example of a 'nip out to the bogs' tune while watching Elbow - of all the tracks that could be realistically played this tour, discounting barb! tunes, as, despite literally a couple of tracks that don't excite me, I'd still want to hear them live to get the proper feel - it would maybe be (dons tin hat as Jones pelts me), 'Weather to Fly', and after that, I'm really struggling.

I do understand where you are coming from Boney-Crisp, its just a discussion.

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if you have a crowd pleaser, why leave it out?

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BTW I have seen Elbow before and I still agree with Boney's sentiments. Maybe we're easy to please (Audience aside .. natch)

only in arenas .. natch

I know in the past, some in the audience, me included, rationing liquid intake during elbow gigs so that not one note was missed! lol.
But the nature of arenas is I guess that there probably is more audience 'comfort breaks'

Gotta admit, I'm with Boney-Crisp and Cozzer: I don't mind what's played as BARB is such a monster album, it's got to take pride of place and after that they'd maybe pick other numbers which gel well with it. If we get a oldie that never normally gets played, that's a bonus, but you could perm one from - what - 15-20 of those and still have happy bunnies. After all, Elbow are noted for putting together album running orders which create a complete listening experience, think I could trust 'em with a setlist...

Anyway, Guy could sing the periodic table while we get a little cosmic music behind and I bet we'd all be asking for the bootleg!

Yes, I'm looking forward to more of BARB, as I've already said, that is what they are promoting after all! ...and got to admit I'm with you mrswoman

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and after that they'd maybe pick other numbers which gel well with it. If we get a oldie that never normally gets played, that's a bonus

couldn't agree more, and I more than think we can trust them with a setlist.


Can't agree with you about the periodic table bootleg I'm afraid or that your with Cozzer on your comfort break

All joking aside: I think it's probably harder for bands with a large back catalogue of albums (U2, Rolling Stones etc.) because they have to play a 'core' set of favourites otherwise they'd be lynched. When I used to post on a Simple Minds forum there were two distinct factions: the 'Play Anything' crowd and the 'Please Don't Play Sanctify Yourself and Don't You Forget About Me Again' Bridage. I can appreciate both sentiments ... but as long as the band is on form then all's well. Sadly, said Scottish band are now 'pony' and I shall not spend another penny on putting their kids through public school

My Bury Vest wrote:

Blimey, just been thinking of an example of a 'nip out to the bogs' tune while watching Elbow - of all the tracks that could be realistically played this tour, discounting barb! tunes, as, despite literally a couple of tracks that don't excite me, I'd still want to hear them live to get the proper feel - it would maybe be (dons tin hat as Jones pelts me), 'Weather to Fly', and after that, I'm really struggling.

Gaaaah! MBV! How very dare you!!!!

Just kidding...
We are all entitled to our opinions of course!
I for one was never a huge fan of 'The Stops' whereas most fans seem to consider it one of their finest...
Anyway, I agree that the setlist seems a little SSK-heavy but they are probably keeping in mind that there will be a lot of 'newer' fans at these stadium gigs (and presumably hoping they will come back!).
Although, it would be lovely for the more seasoned fans to hear some of the older stuff, newcomers generally find the first two albums less 'accessible' than the last three.
Having said that; the likes of 'Red', 'SBAW' and 'Fugitive Motel' seem pretty accessible to me...!

Nice one Jones ! That really hurt !

I don't neccesarily hate 'Weather To Fly' - it's a good song but the weakest to me on the album.

Totally agree with all you've said above - makes perfect sense re the setlist......personally speaking though, I'm one that thinks 'Powder Blue' is a good song but no more but ADORES 'The Stops' !

Sorry MBV, I may have been a little hard on you there!
I guess, some songs just 'click' with you or they just 'don't' for whatever reason.
Isn't it great, though, how songs affect people differently?
And wouldn't it be sooo boring if we all liked the same songs all the time?
Imagine, a full show of only 'One Day Like This'...?
Not for me!
Although, I'm hoping they play a bit more of BARB than they did at Cambridge!




(As long as they don't drop 'Weather to Fly' lol! )

There's been a lot of comment on the set list not being ideal with lack of
older stuff and high TSSK weighting. I can completley understand the viewpoint of
those who have followed them live at lots of gigs over the past few years, becoming overfamiliar with
the set.

Most people have suggested a couple from the first two albums would have been prefferable. My only issue is that if that were the case, which tracks would have pleased everybody ? - and consequently which tracks would have been sacrificed. (unless we're expecting them to play a 3hour set )

I reckon if they had added in older ones, then we'd still be on here debating why they picked those ones and not this track or the other, as we all have slightly differing favourites from the earlier albums. (as a bunch of Picky Buggers we are !)

I'll be the first to hold my hand up and agree that ODLT is not my favourite elbow classic - but the closing of the show on Tuesday was just immense. I'm really struggling to see what track could have generated the same atmosphere amongst 10,000 ish fans, a large proportion of who were likely more recently aquainted with elbow. I've never enjoyed that particular song so much as i did on Tuesday.

Granted...stick a couple of thousand, (hundred, ten...) diehards in a small venue and we'd have blown the place apart with atmosphere, with other tracks. But this wouldn't have been the case here.

I guess it's also really tough when we have been lucky to have had five great albums. Some bands will need to continue playing their best early work because they never produce anything of the same merit down the line. For elbow, we all know this is simply not the case.

I hope everyone who has seen or is due to see them enjoys the shows, they could have played Abba covers and i would probably have been happy !

ChrissyBoy wrote:

Most people have suggested a couple from the first two albums would have been prefferable. My only issue is that if that were the case, which tracks would have pleased everybody ? - and consequently which tracks would have been sacrificed. (unless we're expecting them to play a 3hour set )

I reckon if they had added in older ones, then we'd still be on here debating why they picked those ones and not this track or the other, as we all have slightly differing favourites from the earlier albums. (as a bunch of Picky Buggers we are !)

Don't flame me... but i'd drop any 2 of these to squeeze Newborn and Fugitive back in...

The Night Will Always Win
The Lonliness of a Towercrane Driver
Weather To Fly

I'd say With Love as well, but its new so may grow and may work better on another night (wasnt sure on wednesday). I'd drop 'One Day' but i know that can't\won't happen...

ChrissyBoy wrote:

I guess it's also really tough when we have been lucky to have had five great albums. Some bands will need to continue playing their best early work because they never produce anything of the same merit down the line. For elbow, we all know this is simply not the case.

That's actually and really fair comment. They've done it so well, for so long that really you can't expect them to do it much diffenently. Change is good i'm told, i normally agree... two days after the newcastle gig i'm coming round to accepting elbow for what they are now... i suppose you are quite correct, this is what they are and they are doing it to the best of what they do...

ChrissyBoy wrote:

I guess it's also really tough when we have been lucky to have had five great albums. Some bands will need to continue playing their best early work because they never produce anything of the same merit down the line. For elbow, we all know this is simply not the case.

This is why I found Elbow were so amazing when I got into their music... 4 albums (now 5), and each one is a chef d'oeuvre (how can I translate...).


Anyone can explain me what are Weather To Fly PARTIAL & FULL please? I don't get it.

Rather than one of the old favourites... whick used to be a mainstay, one wild card surprise? just to shake up the predictability.
All of those songs mentioned above have special effects or an added extra for the arena.
Weather to Fly has all the drinks fun before, Towercrane is moody and green, I'm not fussed about 'The Night either...but its when they all play keyboards isn't it.
Newborn and fugitive motel are out as Guy not playing guitar this time.

Only ones I could think of was 'Bones of you to drop', or some riot, or starlings? Wonder what will be left out when 'the Fix' is added at sheffield?
The River instead of Puncture Repair?
I would love either 'Snooks(old) or High Ideals(new) fitting in with this present set.

ChrissyBoy wrote:

I guess it's also really tough when we have been lucky to have had five great albums. Some bands will need to continue playing their best early work because they never produce anything of the same merit down the line. For elbow, we all know this is simply not the case.

(As long the songs like 'One day like this, With Love, Open arms', singalongs, clap alongs don't take over! down the line )