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PostSubject: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeMon 21 Sep 2009, 11:38

No, not a mistake. Out Of Phase Stereo.

It's a process that Beatles fans have been doing for years. Take a stereo track, invert one of the channels, and output in mono. The center drops out, and what remains is usually instrumental, and it's usually a mystery. You usually lose the vocal, either entirely or it gets really buried.

I OOPSed the entirety of The Seldom Seen Kid, just for kicks.

Elbow is an interesting band to OOPS, because they already have an interesting sonic texture. Running TSSK through the OOPS process produces something... different. "Starlings" basically strips down to a rock steady beat with the orchestra chiming in from time to time. "The Bones of You" loses the vocal, but the backing vocals, heavily distorted and vaguely druggy, are brought to the fore. "Tower Crane Driver" sounds like it's a message from Mars. "Some Riot" is reduced to the instrumentals, with some heavy reverb, but! You can also hear Guy Garvey's intake breathing. "One Day Like This" is recognizable, except that Garvey's vocal sounds like he recorded it in a bathroom down the hall, and the big surprise is that there are finger snaps in the song. Very little of "Friend of Ours" remains as most of that song is recorded in the center.

Anyone else OOPS an Elbow track, just for fun?
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeMon 21 Sep 2009, 11:48

Interesting! I've used the process occasionally on pre-1970s tracks to knock the vocals out, but I'd almost forgotten about it until now. I've never tried it on Elbow, will have to give it a go and post up the results so non-music geeks can have a listen!
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 13:56

nerrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddddsssssssssssss Smile
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 15:35

Who rattled your cage?! Thanks for bumping the thread and reminding me I was going to do this though.
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 16:00

Not rattled, the smile was supposed to turn the 'insult' into a friendly joke. Now that i think about it though, shouting nerrrrrrdddd is a bit of an in joke with me and my friends so may not translate Razz
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 16:04

allyngibson wrote:

Take a stereo track, invert one of the channels, and output in mono.

You do what now? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 16:11

ha, no worries Steve, I'm used to being called a "nerd" anyway!

Mollyb wrote:
allyngibson wrote:

Take a stereo track, invert one of the channels, and output in mono.

You do what now? scratch

There's a wikipedia article about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_inversion although it's too nerdy even for me! Basically you get the left-hand channel, perform a phase inversion on it, and mix it with the right-hand channel. It's just a funny bit of audio fuckery.

And if the two channels were identical (i.e. it was a mono track) then they would cancel each other out and the music would completely disappear as if by magic.
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 16:15

I understand what to do.......but don't think I'm confident enough with electrics to start messing with my stereo. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 17:55

You don't need to worry about electrics, you can do it on your computer! Just bung a load of mp3s or wavs into Audacity...
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 17:57

Huh! Interesting....... I must have a go at this so! Cool cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeThu 24 Sep 2009, 18:26

I want to hear these!
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeTue 29 Sep 2009, 13:51

I would love to hear the results of this process...seems quite interesting!
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeSun 08 Nov 2009, 22:08

Has anyone managed to OOPS anything yet?
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeMon 09 Nov 2009, 11:15

Been insanely busy but might have a go this week.
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeTue 10 Nov 2009, 19:21

The only thing i've ever OOpsed - was upside my head, oops up side your head, i said oops up side your head....(one for the circa 40 year olds)
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeTue 10 Nov 2009, 23:12

Yes, but did you all sit on the floor and pretend to row a boat??

I did (only once, mind you) Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: OOPS   OOPS Icon_minitimeFri 13 Nov 2009, 19:03

Yeah - Under 14 disco when i was about 12 or something.
It was a step up from the Can Can and the birdy song Embarassed
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